Tuesday, 25 October 2016

Mainsail decision made!


So, Evolution sails it is.  They (John Dakin)  and North (Hugh Beaton) were by far the most engaged and responsive of those I contacted, both sent detailed proposals offering alternatives.  Each explained their rationale and the features and benefits of each option.  Both were intimately familiar with the C&C 33ii, not surprising here in Toronto.  North was actually referred by a lister through the US and chased the enquiry on their own.  (cool) There was little to choose between the two, other than my modest preference for one of three options proposed by Evolution, and the fact that the entire sail is made locally.  Both were highly recommended by a local marine industry exec and ex-sailmaker friend of mine.    
  • Each loft recommended cross-cut dacron, some with two price points, one a more "commodity" sail, one more tailored, with higher grade cloth.
  • UK sails (who has my sails in their Toronto loft today for fall repairs and assessment) never bothered to quote, despite 3 reminder emails.
  • Lee sails quoted a commodity sail only, after having asked a few basic questions, and advised that I could earn a discount by placing an order that accommodated their spring shipping container, but that I'd better hurry because the local agent would be away for several month on holiday over the winter.  Price was not appreciably less than others locally loft for a similar commodity sail.  
  • After a poke or two Doyle responded with a friendly email only, short on detail and with pricing that was not terribly competitive.  Also, they are far enough away as to require shipping.
  • Rolly Tasker in Thailand (David) was the value king - great and thorough response (again) and C$700 or so cheaper than others for what is probably a quality commodity-type sail, with partial battens.   No middlemen.    If I were on a budget I would order from Tasker (again - I bought a cruising spinnaker from them a few months back) without hesitation.
  • Both Tasker and Lee were not prepared to quote full battens, only prep for same, so the buyer would need to spend more locally and sort out the details.  I think the long battens make offshore shipping an issue, but I did not really investigate that.  
  • Interestingly the sail area (roach) really varied between quote (Lee and Doyle did not specify SA), I suspect as a result of familiarity of North and Evolution with PHRF ratings and the boat itself.   Highest was  292 sq ft, lowest 263sq ft from Tasker.   It is possible that at order time they would request more info and tweak that.  Lee covered roach dimensions in their very detailed order form.   
  • Lee's order form is pretty complete and is a useful way to document your rig for getting quotes from sailmakers.   Tasker's is less detailed.  I used Tasker's and posted photos here.
  • I think that Evolution sails may be a good option for US C&C owners looking to benefit from the current weak Canadian dollar with a loft that has plenty of C&C experience.
  • Prices ranged from approximately C$1800 to C$2500 for the more basic sails, to around $3200 for a higher-end but still cross-cut sail from a responsive local loft.
Am pretty happy to be dealing with a local loft on this one, I think availability for future service plays more of a role with a main than a spinnaker, and tribal knowledge of the various C&C models that is natural to the Toronto area is worth something to me.  Not having to ship the sail matters too - one fitting tweak could eat up some freight cost, especially cross-border.


Monday, 24 October 2016

Gori 2-blade prop

My Martec was tired and I knew I wanted a folding prop to replace it.   Pretty happy with the Gori.  Do beware that the normal shaft section where the castle nut is installed may be different in length than a typical North American prop.  (the gears foul the end of the shaft on the gori, there is more space on the martec.   A long story but it took some doing to install this, and some mods to a brand new shaft.
In any case it works great, no issues so far.   Shipped air from Denmark amazingly quickly, great service from the agent in New England somewhere.







Sunday, 23 October 2016

Mainsail specification, rig photos, dimensions, details

Mainsail Deliberations

After much thought, research, and sound advice, I would modify my intended use to read:

I value the 33-2's performance, and enjoy getting the most I can out of the boat.  In the past I had not paid much attention to the finer points of sail trim, however in researching this mainsail purchase, I have realized that I would very much enjoy a well designed, "tunable" mainsail, and would like to learn how to optimize sail shape.  
That said, most of my sailing here on Lake Ontario will be for pleasure, daysailing or short cruises,  either single-handed or effectively so.  I will likely look for some recreational racing opportunities and at some point would like to try distance racing, but not at an ultra-competitive level.   I don't want to buy another main for this boat in the next decade.

The parameters for my new main are also becoming more clear. I believe the mainsail features most appropriate for my use are:

  • Cross-cut construction (radial optional, not really necessary)
  • top quality, low stretch dacron
  • Loose footed
  • luff slides 
  • 4 partial battens or 2+4 full/partial.  
  • two sets reef points. 
  • Cunningham
  • telltales
  • 2-3 draft stripes
  • Sail no 34760 - blue
  • C&C logo?
I welcome any suggestions.

Factory sailplan can be found here:   

Preferred Details (alternative suggestions welcome)


How the reefing lines will be rigged.   Do I really need a block at the clew?

Reefing tack - The previous sail was a Type A.  Worked great I thought.

Not sure what to do with the Cunningham, but the gooseneck fitting has two fairleads that look like candidates for this use.   


Windstar's measured dimensions

Luff - masthead sheave to top of boom:  39' 7"
Luff - top of black tape on mast to top of boom: 39' 1"
Foot - end of boom extrusion to back of mast: 138" 
Foot - end of black tape boom to back of mast:  135"  
Tack back - top of boom to centre of current tack shackle: 1 1/4"
Tack up - aft edge of mast to centre of current tack shackle:  7/8"
Reefing hook - aft edge of mast to underside of reefing hook:  approx 2"
Reefing hook - height from top of boom: approx 2"
Sail slide gate - bottom of gate to top of boom:  10 3/4"


















What are these used for?

Documenting my rig for winter work and a new mainsail, and it's like a box of chocolates...

Here is the gooseneck fitting from below - what are the two fairleads for? (Cunningham maybe?)

Another mystery item, this shot from the bottom of the boom.   The swivel padeye is the vang attachment.  What was the the cleat mounted forward of that used for?
Does anyone know who manufactured the padeye itself?

The next two show why it is a good idea to inspect the rig!  End of boom casting fracture, and mainsheet attachment rivet failure.